If you put the fact that women in highly developed countries are more likely to choose traditional vocations together with the feminist belief that female behaviour is due to social conditioning, you get one hell of a contradiction. If you as a feminist can agree that it's not conditioning, then asking women to break their gender pattern is like asking them to be more like men. If you like this idea, you're basically admitting that male behaviour is more desirable, making you a sexist.
@thor This comes across as strawman, or at least a misunderstanding.
Second Wave white feminism was about active rejection of femininity and gender roles.
Current feminism among younger generations is more intersectional, and about reclaiming femininity as self-empowerment and the freedom of choice.
@ThisIsLeeloo The public discoruse in the media here in Norway doesn't really distinguish between these different waves, and the most popular subject is how to get more women into high-paying / high-status jobs in the private sector, and how to get more women interested in politics, and in being more publicly outspoken. You get this feeling that they're almost begging the women: "Can you pleeease become CEOs instead of nurses? You're free now. Stop being womanly!"
@thor Career paths don’t have a gender.
The only criticism I have is that encouraging women to be CEOs doesn’t address the problem of hierarchical class exploitation.
@ThisIsLeeloo Exploitation? You must remember that together with feminism, socialism is strong in Scandinavia. The workers are strongly protected by law and there is a strong social security system. If you think that having a hierarchy at all is exploitative, then I don't know what to say to that.
@ThisIsLeeloo So, no, it's not so much a strawman. Norway is politically and culturally at second wave feminism. There's still a strong belief among many educated people that gendered behaviour is due to social conditioning. Being a woman who makes choices typical for a woman is still considered a bit of a problem here, and I'm basically making fun of that.
@thor thank you for clarifying some things.
i might get back to this after thinking about it more.
@ThisIsLeeloo Career paths are behaviour. Some behaviours are seen more frequently in one gender than the other, because of inclinations one way or the other. Behaviours aren't exclusive to a single gender, of course, but many are so closely tied to gender that you really notice the exceptions.
@thor
Paradoxes are weird
@thor
Wow thats bullshit