I basically love anything related to green energy, electric cars, smart cities, you name it.
I'm also a fan of science and technology. My understanding of electronics relies on Volta, Faraday, Franklin, Bohr and countless others, and I have a good understanding of the fundamentals...
...but I lack the same understanding of climate science. I can't see a clear cause and effect. There's mainly complex statistical models concerning sea temperatures, and that's somehow less convincing...
...I agree with the joke "What if we do all these good things for the environment, and then it turns out was all for nothing, because humans didn't cause global warming after all?"
I'm on board with the green agenda, I'm in favor of green cities, I mean, I love it all...
...I'm just on the fence when it comes to the whole human-induced global warming thing. I bought into it at first, but soon realized it was peer pressure, and I wasn't being honest with myself...
@thor
And yet, the average global temp climbs. Would we not be wise to attempt to *avoid* human contribution to the problem.
@Algot Well, as I said, I agree with the sarcastic joke I quoted above. It would be stupid not to do these positive things. I mean, some of them would also help plain old air pollution and protect vulnerable habitats and species...
It is common for me to jump into a conversation by way of a toot halfway along.
Sorry to have missed the beginning, too.
This social media format (all platforms) makes it too easy to come in at the middle.
Making a comment on a single toot can really make me stuff my foot deep into my mouth, embarrassing and difficult at the same time.
@Algot Well, did you check out the rest of the thread?
@Algot I guess what I'm saying is that my heart it with the green movement, but I'm not quite there when it comes to the hard science.
This science may be "too hard" to be rendered as hard science.
I'd prefer to err on the side of caution from a political perspective.
@Algot To me, an internal combustion engine and a coal power plant are these smelly, primitive things and I hope we can quit using them quickly. Sitting in a Tesla for the first time was like switching from CRTs to LCDs. "Wow, we were old fashioned."
@thor I think regardless of the cause and regardless of what or who is responsible, the fact is that we have to find ways of generating and consuming energy more efficiently. So whatever you want to blame, we still end up in the same place and now we have to deal with it.
@thor
If climate scientists can actually agree on how much of global temperatures humans are responsible for, I may be willing to buy into the human caused global warming argument, but everything I've seen about that is based on software models as complex as economic predictions, and we know how accurate economic prediction models are.
@skypage This is pretty much what I feel too. And albeit meteorology and climate science aren't equivalent, I can't help but look at the rather unreliable statistical models they use for weather forecasts, and wonder how accurate the statistical models for climate change really are...
@thor
I suspect the "big data" science is similarly difficult to do without statistics (a field I disliked as a student).
Complex modelling is based on the work of people like Godel and math masters of his level.